Now that you are interested in hunting with a traditional bow, it is time to consider draw weight and the absence of let-off, which I feel is the compound’s greatest advantage. Traditional bows do not assist you once fully drawn. Holding an 80lb longbow at full draw is monumentally tougher than an 80lb compound with let-off, which makes choosing a bow with the correct draw weight absolutely crucial, especially when you are making the transition.
Choosing a bow with the correct draw weight would be easy save for the subjective nature of it and the variations of advice one receives when posing the question. Debates over draw weight have raged for years and I don’t see them concluding any time soon. The traditional world is basically split into two camps: the “my 45lb bow will kill anything on the continent with a well tuned arrow and proper shot placement” camp, and the “shoot the heaviest bow you can handle should something go wrong” camp. The two do not get along and I have a hard time disagreeing with the logic behind either of them. It would benefit you to be aware of this riff and explore the ideologies behind each before making your decision.
I’ll get you started by asking you to consider the following.
The wrong formula
A common misconception made by bow hunters in transition is to drop 20lb from their compound and hit the woods with a bow that is too heavy. Bad habits, missed deer, and injury can result. Most cannot transition from an 85lb compound into a 65lb stickbow. They are worlds apart. The weight of a traditional bow is bore by the back, shoulders, and fingers sans assistance. Consider the latter in particular. Most compounders shoot with a release. They aren’t bearing the weight on their digits. A thin bowstring can be murder on the fingers, especially when one isn’t used to it. A 45lb recurve ripped my fingers up for weeks while calluses formed.
Draw length must also be considered, which will change slightly from release to fingers depending on your new anchor. A longer draw equals more weight: about 3lbs per inch of draw. A shorter draw equals less weight. I usually recommend a 45-50lb bow to newbies who ask and yes with the proper arrow and broadhead you can hunt with this weight. People have been doing it for decades and will continue to do so.
Size doesn’t matter
Being big and strong doesn’t always transition to big draw weight. I’ve seen the opposite too many times to think otherwise. At 6’4” 240lb, I’m a fairly large guy and have fondled a 50lb the bulk of my longbow career. I only recently jumped to 65lb and had to go through a transitional period to do so. On the other hand, I have several friends who shoot bows in the 80lb ballpark and aren’t nearly as large. While it is true that some are naturally stronger in archery-related muscle groups, it takes practice and proper form to increase poundage for most of us mortals. A popular method is to buy a bow at your target weight and slowly work into it by drawing, holding for a short period of time, and letting it back down repeatedly several times a day. The process works your muscles and lets your body adapt to the weight. By the same token, once you’ve achieved said weight, it can be easily lost by dropping back down or simply not shooting for awhile. Muscles need to be maintained to master a target draw weight. I said “target” draw weight for a reason. Before attempting any of this, you need to figure out where you want to be and plan accordingly.
A shoulder to cry on
When I began throwing myself into this whole thing, I believed that a 50lb bow was the optimum bow weight for everyone and anyone shooting anything but was trying to prove something. There is nothing wrong with a 50lb bow. It is an ample killing implement with an arrow that is properly tuned and tipped with a sharp cut-on-contact head. However, as much as I am a proponent of the 50lb bow, I am every bit as a believer in the aforementioned Murphy’s Law and have decided to walk a heavier path. Animals, big game in particular, are tough and they seldom sit still for you. At some point in your traditional journey you will hit one in a less than ideal place. I’ve done it twice already.
The first resulted in a high shoulder hit on a doe that basically laughed at me. She jumped the string, I shot a bit high, and that was that. It was humbling, it was terrible, and I still haven’t gotten completely over it. That particular deer was wounded with a 50# longbow and an aluminum arrow with a 145g broadhead that wasn’t as sharp as it should have been. I was only 10 yards away. Now, what makes this story unique is that I killed another doe moments before with the same setup 10 minutes prior at 25 yards with a double-lung pass-through. In one sitting I experienced the full emotional spectrum of bowhunting and learned plenty about Mr. Murphy.
The second occurred two years later with a 57lb longbow and an arrow setup that weighed almost double the one above. I had the drop on a doe from a ridge overlooking a creek bed, but threw the shot a bit high due to the elevation and caught her on the shoulder. This time the arrow cleaved it in two, buried deep into her spine, and killed her instantly. Had it not been for the heavier bow and arrow I am certain that situation would’ve turned out differently and believe you should hunt with the heaviest bow you can handle. And by handle I mean shoot more than once on a “strong” day when you’re feeling particularly spry.
Obey your master
Whatever campfire you choose to sit at – heavy or light – there is one principle in which you must absolutely abide: hunt with a draw weight you have mastered. Entering the woods with a weight you’re not comfortable drawing is not only a bad decision, but also an unethical one. If you can’t draw and hold your bow for several seconds, repeatedly and on any given day, you have no business taking it to the woods. Doing so is as good as inviting Murphy’s Law to have its way with you. Anything that can go wrong, most definitely will at some point or another. The mystique of traditional is the unpredictability of the animal and the circumstance. Every opportunity is a blessing and blowing one is a terrible feeling.
The Bottom Line
Once you’ve considered the above, completed some research of your own, and chosen a hunting bow that works for you, your next step will be finding something that shoots well out of it and does what you need it to do when it hits the target. A good arrow with the right cut-on-contact broadhead is paramount to your success with a traditional bow, regardless of the poundage. This is something we can all agree on.
We’ll talk about hunting arrows next month. You won’t want to miss it!
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I’ve have 2 questions. I had bypass surgery and am dropping from 70# limbs to 60# limbs on my compound to reduce stress though the sternum. Do you have any opinions on traditional bow weight for people that have had this type of surgery?
Also, I have light tremors and use a 8# trigger on my release so I can get the bow pulled and lined up before I make a controlled pull of the trigger. Do people use releases with traditional bows? I’ve already put one arrow though a guy’s bathroom window while he was on the can. I don’t really want to send more arrows flying willy nilly.
Hi Michael, first of all I applaud the fact you are trying to shoot PERIOD after such a surgery, and to add traditional on top of that is admirable. However, this is a question I’m going to have a hard time answering because I am not you or your doctor. I would say…start as low as possible. Guys that have shoulder, back surgeries, even hernias that I know have dropped down as far as 35# so they could keep shooting. You may be able to handle more or less, I am not sure. This is something you would need to experiment with but PLEASE be careful.
As for your second question, it sounds like a release is something you should stick with. I do not know of anyone who uses a release on a traditional bow, but I’ve heard mention of it. Safety is always the priority. Health is always the priority. Be safe and shoot how/what you are firmly in control of at all times.
Well-written, no-nonsense advice, Nick. Well done.
Two big factors that I consider when choosing draw weight:
1) Can I hold it at full draw for 10 seconds? If I can’t, it’s too heavy for me, simply because a bow that I can only draw and then must release quickly limits my shot opportunities.
2) Can I comfortably draw the bow and shoot accurately, on the first shot, when my muscles are cold? It’s one thing to be able to shoot a heavy bow well after a dozen warm-up shots, but the reality of hunting is that you may be sitting for hours, in the cold, before suddenly needing to draw and shoot and get it right. A bow that I can’t do this with is also a bow that is too heavy for me to hunt with.
Looking forward to the next article!
Thank you Smith…and I appreciate the comment. Good stuff right there. Cold does play a huge factor.
Thanks Nick. After heart surgery and rest, you go through a cardio and strength program. One of the up front conditions I made was to get back to shooting a bow. I had to knock on a lot of doors to find someone that knew how a bow loaded the body. I lucked out and found a facility that had a cardio rehab with a physical trainer and partnered with an orthopedic rehab. So I’m doing a somewhat custom program design to get me back afield for the fall season.
You’re are correct about being careful. The best advice I could give to us older(47) hunters is to talk with an orthopedic surgeon for advice on developing a cardiac program. Even at 4 months post surgery, a person can split themselves open and have to start over.
I can’t even imagine Michael. Keep at it and be careful! I think a real light recurve with a release may get you in the game. The bummer is having to buy one. The Samick Sage is real cheap at like 109 and you could always get limbs for it. Just a thought.
Plenty of guys use thumb rings which functions just like a release though!
Good thoughts there Nick. Like the Viau! You’re a good bit sharper than Steve Angell let on!
I had not considered a thumb ring! Good suggestion!
I’m able to string a coherent point together on occasion Ray. What is that saying about the dumbest squirrel and the nut? 😉
Samick Sage looks good. 3 Rivers is showing a 4.5 rating from 341 people. I pull a 28.5 on the compound so I think I’ll go with the 40lbs to meet state requirements.
I’m shooting 300 spine Eastons on the compound at 425 grains. think that will work with the Samick?
No. 300 is a real stiff spine. That bow will shoot a 500 spine arrow well even with a heavy point. I shoot 60# bows and only shoot a 400 with 200g up front cut to 30″